My first exposure to the internet was back in 1996 when my husband and my son bought me a WebTV* unit for Christmas. I didn't have much of an idea of what the internet really was, but I was excited. I had seen an advertisment for WebTV and it looked like a lot of fun.
One of the first things I learned about were bulletin boards (an early version of forums). WebTV had a feature that allowed you to choose your interests and then it would display a list of bulletin boards you might like. Under the entertainment category, I found a bulletin board for M*A*S*H. I've always loved the show, and when I found out Larry Gelbart, one of the shows writer/producers was a contributing member of the board, I decided to check it out.
At first, all I did was read the posts. I was nervous about posting any questions or comments of my own, but when I saw that Larry was answering questions, I got up my nerve and posted one. He didn't answer right away but another member of the board did. At that time your user name ended with the system you were using (i.e. willoughby@webtv) and when this guy saw that I was on WebTV, he lit into me. He said the only people on the internet that were stupider (his word) than AOL users were WebTV users. He went on to blame me for the dumbing down of the internet. I couldn't believe it. All I had done was ask a question about the set they used for filming M*A*S*H.
It didn't take long to find out that it wasn't just the M*A*S*H board that attracted nasty people. The cooking bulletin board was just as bad. I chimed in on a conversation about how long unrefrigerated food was safe to eat and two people ganged up to tell me how stupid I was. I had said that it was risky to eat cooked chicken that had been unrefrigerated all day (picnics). These two said that people in third world countries ate unrefrigerated cooked food all the time without getting sick. According to them, people like me were the cause of all the anti-biotic resistant bacterial strains because we are overly hygienic and paranoid.
Since then, I've graduated to a high speed internet connection and laptop computer, but I still run into the same sort of nastiness all the time. I've been told that I (and everyone else who lives in Michigan) must be living under a rock if we still call carbonated beverages "pop" instead of "soda" and that we should learn to speak english here. A man who bought one of our ebay items told me I must not understand the US banking system if I refused to accept his personal check and that I should move to the European Union and stop selling on ebay. I could go on and on.
I see it on forums, blog comments and anywhere else readers can leave opinions. Don't believe me? Go to any cooking forum and profess your love for canned creamed soups, White Zinfandel or Velveeta. They'll be on you like vultures. Or try a fitness and nutrition website and admit you allow your family to consume products with high fructose corn syrup. I've seen people accused of poisoning their children for making such statements. Don't even get me started on the comments I've seen on politics, religion or birth control.
I have no problem ignoring it, but I still don't understand what causes people to behave that way. Is it really that important for them to have complete strangers agree with them? I can have an opinion without the need to express it to other people if it's going to cause a confrontation, why can't they? I wonder, too, if people in their real lives know the sort of things they post online. Probably not.
I would rather have a pleasant conversation than an argument. I would also rather say something positive than something negative. Everyone knows what it feels like to get a compliment. A few nice words can truly make your day. It takes no more energy to bring someone up than to bring them down and it doesn't diminish your achievements to acknowledge the achievements of another. But that's just my opinion.
How do you feel about negative internet users? Have you had any bad experiences?
*WebTV gave you access to the internet on your television through a dial-up phone connection.
One of the first things I learned about were bulletin boards (an early version of forums). WebTV had a feature that allowed you to choose your interests and then it would display a list of bulletin boards you might like. Under the entertainment category, I found a bulletin board for M*A*S*H. I've always loved the show, and when I found out Larry Gelbart, one of the shows writer/producers was a contributing member of the board, I decided to check it out.
At first, all I did was read the posts. I was nervous about posting any questions or comments of my own, but when I saw that Larry was answering questions, I got up my nerve and posted one. He didn't answer right away but another member of the board did. At that time your user name ended with the system you were using (i.e. willoughby@webtv) and when this guy saw that I was on WebTV, he lit into me. He said the only people on the internet that were stupider (his word) than AOL users were WebTV users. He went on to blame me for the dumbing down of the internet. I couldn't believe it. All I had done was ask a question about the set they used for filming M*A*S*H.
It didn't take long to find out that it wasn't just the M*A*S*H board that attracted nasty people. The cooking bulletin board was just as bad. I chimed in on a conversation about how long unrefrigerated food was safe to eat and two people ganged up to tell me how stupid I was. I had said that it was risky to eat cooked chicken that had been unrefrigerated all day (picnics). These two said that people in third world countries ate unrefrigerated cooked food all the time without getting sick. According to them, people like me were the cause of all the anti-biotic resistant bacterial strains because we are overly hygienic and paranoid.
Since then, I've graduated to a high speed internet connection and laptop computer, but I still run into the same sort of nastiness all the time. I've been told that I (and everyone else who lives in Michigan) must be living under a rock if we still call carbonated beverages "pop" instead of "soda" and that we should learn to speak english here. A man who bought one of our ebay items told me I must not understand the US banking system if I refused to accept his personal check and that I should move to the European Union and stop selling on ebay. I could go on and on.
I see it on forums, blog comments and anywhere else readers can leave opinions. Don't believe me? Go to any cooking forum and profess your love for canned creamed soups, White Zinfandel or Velveeta. They'll be on you like vultures. Or try a fitness and nutrition website and admit you allow your family to consume products with high fructose corn syrup. I've seen people accused of poisoning their children for making such statements. Don't even get me started on the comments I've seen on politics, religion or birth control.
I have no problem ignoring it, but I still don't understand what causes people to behave that way. Is it really that important for them to have complete strangers agree with them? I can have an opinion without the need to express it to other people if it's going to cause a confrontation, why can't they? I wonder, too, if people in their real lives know the sort of things they post online. Probably not.
I would rather have a pleasant conversation than an argument. I would also rather say something positive than something negative. Everyone knows what it feels like to get a compliment. A few nice words can truly make your day. It takes no more energy to bring someone up than to bring them down and it doesn't diminish your achievements to acknowledge the achievements of another. But that's just my opinion.
How do you feel about negative internet users? Have you had any bad experiences?
*WebTV gave you access to the internet on your television through a dial-up phone connection.
Willoughby
Comments
There was a blog I followed for a while that lit in to something a couple of her commenters said that she didn't agree with, it was a very rude and completely uncalled for post. This happened on her blog 3 different times and I quit following her blog.
I don't like being around negativity, I prefer to enjoy life, which is one of the reasons I enjoy your blog. You have a wonderful way with words :)
I'm not sure why the anonymity of the internet lends people to be so harsh and downright cruel... but it IS everywhere.
It is probably one reason that I don't go out there and actively try to find myself more followers.. you never know what you'll find! : )
(besides the ones I have are all sweet and kind people... I don't mind if there's not alot of them!! )
There are a lot of internet tough guys (and gals) who have no problem telling you how effing stupid you are but would not have the testicular fortitude to say that crap to you in person. I speak from experience.
I can take criticism and opposing viewpoints but I dislike the negativity and hostility that often accompanies that garbage.
That's why I like blogging so much. I figure my followers aren't going to lay into me even if they disagree with me (as long as I don't post something utterly ridiculously negative or something else out of character) or don't care for what I have to say. It's a somewhat calm environment and I like to interact with my followers there. For instance, no one has told me "you're stupid for running a marathon" even if they've thought it.
The other thing you see, aside from out-and-out nastiness, is a lot of misunderstandings...the typed word doesn't always pick up on sarcasm or jest, and throw in a few typos and next thing you know it's a cyber World War III!
I pride myself in being able to voice my opinion, when it differs from yours, without making it a personal attack or suggesting that you are an idiot or the stupid one. After all, it's just that, an opinion.
I can't believe people can be so rude! I was taught that if you can't say anything nice you don't say anything at all.
I agree with ChristineM that it can be hard to tell if someone is joking or being sarcastic with the written word. Adding a smiley face :) or using LOL can help, but if I am not sure how someone will take my comment I'd just as soon not leave one.
What is wrong with people today?! I also agree with L.B. that 99% of these people wouldn't say these things to your face. I don't know if that is better or worse. Ugh.
Lastly, I agree with thamesarino; I'd rather have a small number of nice followers, than 500 followers and the occasional nasty comment.
I have my beliefs and view points on pretty much everything, but I am completely understanding that my idea/opinion is not everyone's and I accept that. I do not try to change people's perceptions. I just do not understand people like this...they are angry it all I suppose.
I have not really had any bad run-ins yet (knock on wood)...just sill criticisms...someone was appalled that I mixed up my place settings and had the knife pointing the wrong way in one of my Tablescapes. Some people are just looking for conflict or fault.
I agree with the above comment..some people are just looking for conflict...i too have been lucky..maybe it's the type of blogs that we have/are interested in... i don't know....
i really enjoyed reading this..all true...
now on to cast iron skillets...hows that for a switch...
yes, i would use the ones you have as is....maybe just wipe them out with a little oil on a paper towel...
let me know what you make in it...
more later
kary
xxx
Great topic, Su.
I love your blog, and think it is fabulous :)
have a wonderful weekend!
Cameron
www.conquerthemonkey.com
Then there are the blogs specifically FOR haters! the "Poop" blog is an example. Why on earth would anyone want to start a hater blog let alone spend time posting hateful comments. I boggles my mind.
Anyway, I'm with you. Can't we all jsut get along-- or BE QUIET!
Sorry you had such a nasty experience Willoughby. And for the record, I STILL call it "pop" and I've lived all over the country.
xo
Have a great weekend!
Betty xx
Move on darling. You have lots of people that really like what you have to say and comment with a positive things to say.
God Bless!
Hope your day is a good one so far!
Betty xx
have you ever posted the recipe? did i miss it...
have a restful Sunday...
kary
xxx
I agree with Holly--some people are incredibly rude when they can hide behind their computers. But they are also more open in good ways, too. I think the anonymity of the internet probably intensifies personality traits that are already there.
Interesting post!
Thanks for your sweet comment about my guest post on Jumping Tandem today!
the only stupid people on the internet are the ones who have nothing but hate and filth to spew to virtual strangers
and i love you - there's your compliment of the day
you're welcome
maybe it isn't such a good idea..
there is a man here around the corner that has 3 brown ones..that's what kinda got me going...
hmmmmm
more later, my friend
kary